Pop and Play

Season 6 is Here!

Haeny and Nathan are back with a new season of Pop and Play! And we're trying something new: this season we're inviting you the listeners to play along! Curious? More info coming soon: Follow now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or search “Pop and Play” wherever you listen to podcasts!

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Season 6 - New Episode!

What is the Purpose of School?

A Pew Research Report from 2024 prompts Haeny and Nathan to ask a big question: “What is the Purpose of School?” And is school the best place for children to learn?

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Meet Your Hosts


Haeny Yoon
Associate Professor of Early Childhood in the Department of Curriculum and Teaching

Haeny Yoon is an Associate Professor of Early Childhood Education in the Dept. of Curriculum and Teaching. She works with both pre and in-service teachers in designing spaces for children’s play and inquiry. She is also the faculty co-director of the Rita Gold Early Childhood Center, serving children from infant-PreK. The center provides a play-based, emergent curriculum model that forefronts children agency and imagination as central to children’s development. 

Nathan Holbert
Nathan Holbert
Associate Professor in the Program of Technology, Media, and Learning

Nathan Holbert is a dad who designs stuff and builds stuff. He also plays a lot of games. He’s quite lucky to be able to design, build, and play as an Associate professor of Technology, Media, and Learning at Teachers College, Columbia University. Nathan likes to build and study playful tools and technologies that help kids make things they care about or ask questions about the world around them.

Nathan is co-editor of Designing Constructionist Futures: The Art, Theory, and Practice of Learning Designs and Founding Director of the Snow Day Learning Lab.

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